PREVIEW: A Conversation with Kyle Walker, MRC, CRC, CRL, CPM & Russ Thelin, M.S., LVRC, CRC, CRL

In the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Kyle Walker, MRC, CRC, CRL, CPM & Russ Thelin, M.S., LVRC, CRC, CRL, speak with CRCC Executive Director Pam Shlemon about the National Training Center for Transformational Rehabilitation Leadership Program (TRL) a collaborative partnership between the Institute for Community Inclusion at UMASS Boston, the University of Wisconsin-Stout and the Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification. 

Kyle and Russ talk about the need to redefine leadership in rehabilitation counseling, and how the CRL certification will shape the next 100 years of the profession. 

Transcript

Pam Shlemon: What does leadership mean to you?

Kyle Walker: Basically, organizations have two seemingly conflicting needs. On the one hand we need rational approaches to managing resources and making decisions, and managers create order; they foster stability; the foster creative controls; and their focus is on risk avoidance. 

The problem is that organizations also need something else. What they need is an emotional exploration of new ideas and thinking outside of the norm. 

Russ Thelin: Yes, there are roles, yes, there are responsibilities. But when we're collaborative in leadership, organizationally, everyone leads in their domain and leads each other in this way that allows for synergy for the agency to move forward. 

(Voiceover) Pam Shlemon: Hear more on the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling presented by CRCC>